We are writers first. One of the bigger problems here is the inability to distinguish job types.
Thanks for the clarification, Jason. Because it implies that PhDs without books are getting jobs MFAers with books should get, while ignoring the types of jobs PhDs without books typically get. For instance, if the job is at a mid-tier SLAC and will require the candidate to teach lit as much or even more than CW, of course PhDs who passed comp exams will have a leg up on those with two-year studio MFAs.
Actually, out of the six references he has listed, only two are people who would have been on the committee--which leaves four other references to enthusiastically back his candidacy. The reason so many PhDs get jobs? Maybe that sounds angrier than I meant it to.
Just as a side note to this PhD conversation: No, sorry, not Jason. There are other jobs in the world for us. I hope Jason takes this thread and puts it on his shoulder like a chip and writes like a person on fire and produces stacks and stacks of art that make all them haters choke on their own vitriol.
His teaching experience is limited to composition at the junior college level and ethnic studies as a TA at UC San Diego.
So does this comment. Calling it a "Witchhunt," given the facts on display here, is ridiculous, and furthermore, I believe that threads like this are good, inasmuch as they could conceivably put hiring committees on notice that people actually check the credentials of their hires.
The comment that has been deleted was obviously made by someone from the Search Committee. I was the person who responded to the initial PhD comment. Inviting somebody to apply for a job is WAY different than hiring your own graduate.
D is in Ethnic Studies and Communications, not creative writing. Sadly, it looks like this is the new normal. The whole market relies on nepotism to varying degrees. Some of the MFAs tried to object so she sent out a mass email accusing us of all just being jealous of Nick.
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